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March 21, 2011

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Rivrdog

Scott, in reference to your Point #1, if you are NOT using the "Thinking" part of your brain to make important decisions such as who to vote for, then you have answered your own question in your Point #4. If your "guiding principles" do not mesh with your "thinking principles", then, my friend, you have been hornswoggled by whoever wrote your "guiding principles". You are, by definition, a cult victim.

It's perfectly possible to have your thinking principles mesh with your guiding principles. You just have to pick a different flavor of religion to hang your hat on, that's all. I followed my father's example and refused to impose religious education on my children. One of the three of them (the fourth can't make those choices, unfortunately) picked evangelical Christianity, and the other two a less stringent flavor of Christianity.

Choices, Scott, choices. As to MY flavor of religion, yes, I do, in fact, believe that Good Works are necessary to get into heaven. I'm probably some sort of Protestant in that belief, but I've never bothered to try to qualify which flavor of Protestantism I would call myself. When I HAD to make a choice, for my military dogtags, I just put "Protestant" and it was good enough for the military. Most of the Chaplains and most of the services in the military were one-size-fits-all Protestant anyway. Yes, I DID go to Services, and yes, I think it did me some good to go to them.

scottw

1. So, basically I should use the "thinking" part of my brain and set aside my guiding principles and values to support a candidate who is fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal? In a nutshell, no. Been there, done that. Has nothing to do with "religious dogma" at all. But if being a "Thinker" means that I should compromise my value system just to get someone voted out of office, I'll pass. As will millions of other like minded indidviduals.
2. Executing Criminals = abortion? Really? No difference? One is defenseless, the other a criminal who has committed a violent crime and knew prior to the committing of the crime what the punishment will be...c'mon..
3. Doing Good works has never been a prerequisite of reaching Heaven in most Religions.
4. Could it possibly be that a lack of guiding principles, lack of a clear vision, and following the dogma of the "Thinkers" is what got us into this mess?

Rivrdog

Oh, I dunno, Scott. I've always believed that the power of THOUGHT is at least equal to the power of ANY religion's dogma, and superior to most of it. I can think of few REAL thinkers without a moral compass. Every one you might care to name will be found not to be a THINKER, but merely an extra-cunning animal. Animals, of course, do not THINK.

Abortion should always be un-necessary for the THINKING couple (yes, the MAN also gets an abortion, since it was his co-equal decision to make the baby). I am anti-abortion to the degree that thinking people ALL are: it's un-necessary and therefore wasteful, and waste of ANYTHING is stupid. Is waste of human life MORE stupid? That's debatable. You would probably have to be religious, or possess an adherence to religious dogma to decide that waste of HUMAN life is more stupid than any other waste. If you DO decide that, then you can also never kill another human without the sure knowledge that you have committed just as great a sin as an abortionist. The trouble is, most members of the Righteous Right bear down on abortion as the most horrible of horrors, but think nothing of executions of criminals, deaths in deliberate war or even traffic deaths (most of which are preventable, and therefor, not "accidents").

Moral Compass? Man does good works not because of a love of Good, but because it's the most efficient way to conduct life. I've been told I have done Good Works, yet I don't follow any religious dogma. I have good friends who profess to be religious, and I respect them for the way they live, I just don't choose to follow their religion.

Do I believe in a super-being (God)? MAYBE. I can't prove there isn't one, and you can't prove to me that there is one. That's a null set, in my book. Yes, I occasionally attribute good fortune to a benevolent God. I have a 50% chance of being right about that, don't I? I occasionally beseech that un-named God to provide some otherwise-unobtainable relief for some reason. I have an unknown chance of that happening, don't I? If it happens, I can either thank that un-named God or not, that is MY choice.

It's all about thought, Scott, not religion.

scottw

Well, we have to have some type of moral compass do we not? I believe a society, such as ours, dies from within. But I have seen this coming for years....I mean what would or can anyone expect from a society that allows the killing of the unborn to go on unpunished. I am a Christian, but I also allow for all Faiths under my roof. Always have, always will....But in terms of politics, or what type of leader or candidate I will back, I have not in the past, not in the present, nor will I in the future vote for any candidate who is pro choice.....It is not the only requirement, but a deal stopper for me. Just my 2 cents...

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