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February 16, 2012



That seems like a rather complicated system just to cut off fuel. The '83 Mazda pickup I bought new had a direct acting solenoid, that, IIRC, had a plunger that blocked a passage. It failed while under warrantee. With the key off, it would idle, but not develop enough power to move the truck. Once in about 10 years.

Truck went to El Salvador, I think. (somewhere in Central America, anyway).


If the fuel cut-off solenoid worked, it would not be able to start. That was what you used to shut off the engine, by starving the injectors of fuel. In fact, being able to turn off the engine with the key was the test.

Hmm, wonder if my dad's turbo-diesel engine is still sitting in his friends shop? Of course, finding a pickup body still in good enough condition to be worth the trouble of swapping it is going to be a problem.


The fuel cut-off solenoids/motor drives (a solenoid started a drive motor or actuator, which pulled on a short cable to pull the fuel control back past idle to cut-off, and that action was activated by the "off" selection of the "ignition" switch) were badly designed, and they failed in the "on" position. When they failed, the only way the engine could be stopped would have been to raise the hood and manually operate the throttle to cut-off, or by letting out the clutch against the brake and stalling the engine out. I replaced three of them, but the last time, I had the Benz dealer put in a simple ag-type cutoff control and cable from a Wards catalog, and we used that for the last 6 years we owned the car.


Yabu, AMC built an Electric Concord prototype back in the 70's. It had a true 40 mile range before recharge. When you wanted to take a trip, you hooked up a small trailer which held some luggage and had a generator set in it, and the generator powered the vehicle indefinitely. The trailer cost half as much as the car as an option though. The vehicle was never produced. I had a Concord DL 6-cyl inline stick shift I used undercover and in plain-clothes assignments, and I liked the car.


Og, all the current GDI cars are better than my old Gen One 1977 Peugeot 504D, which smoked it's way across the US landscape for almost 200K miles before it fried the aluminum head (on a cast iron block) and was too expensive to repair. Yet, the car had good features. No one builds seats like the Frogs, and I could drive that car the 1100 miles from Riverside, CA to Portland Oregon in 17 hours, and step out feeling not too bad, then climb back in and return 3 days later. The vibration of the diesel engine was perfect for keeping my toddler asleep for the trip. For every praise, though, I had two gripes. The electrical engineers who designed the car's electrical system should all have been shot. The paint was horrible, and I had to repaint the car twice. Parts supplies were supposedly handled by either Pontiac dealers or Benz places, but both companies treated Peugeot owners as if they were fools, charging exorbitant prices for simple parts, such as the $125 motor-shutdown system which failed once a year, but could be replaced with a $19 tractor system with manual pull-handle instead of the "ignition" switch. Brake rotors were the usual Euro $pendy, at $100/disk. On salty Midwest roads, the rear disks, used for parking brakes, corroded badly, but you had to set them, because if a diesel is bumped in gear, it will start. The car was fantastic in the snow, and I could drive it faster on the UP's snowy roads than locals could drive their AMC Eagle 4X4s. It had IRS, and a highly tuned suspension. If the bloody car had more than 68 HP, it would have been happy on bad roads at 125 mph. Maybe I'm alive because it WAS underpowered.

Yabu (EOTIS)

I have a car 100% manufactured and built in Germany...and I am a Patriot. I tried many American made SUV's, and they're a piece of shit. I like it. It's paid for, but high octane fuel is recommended. It will do 160 all day long, not that I do. It is a nice ride. I'm keeping it. No way I'll ever go to a battery powered car...they don't work, period. Look, when the mechanic makes you an offer, it's best to hang on to it and take that as a compliment.

Gas is going to go higher than 5.00, and the cost of electricity will increase as well, and how in the heck do you take a long trip? How do you charge it? What if you have an emergency, and the battery is dead?

Heck, a golf ball sized chunk of uranium will drive a nuclear submarine for 20+ years. I would think a raisin sized chunk would drive a car for a lifetime, or longer.

We're in deep shit on so many levels, it ain't funny.

I hope you're right that if gas hits five, Obama is done. I'm not so sure about that. It going higher than five.


Meanwhile you still can't buy a damned diesel for love or money. And the only ones around, like the jetta and passat, are emissions nightmares.


What makes you think the gubmint would let them sell that feature? The powers that be don't want people to have that capability, they want us all to be green, and rely on candles or some other idiotic bullshit.

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