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04/08/2011

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Re: the Beretta so-called customer service. It's why I never bought any after the first one. Bought a Jetfire .25acp. Took three attempts to get a good one, and finally decided to fix it myself. When I called them, they weren't even interested in the serial #'s of the bad ones, so they could look into the production line screw-up. Twenty+ years since. The tip-up design is unique to them, however.

I have a tip-up Beretta, a Minx .22 Short, very early model, single action, no safety (was my mom's purse gun). Makes a fine signalling device, so it sits in my bug-out tac vest with 25 rounds of loose ammo.

Problem with the new ones is that they are all DA/SA, and that first shot is reported to be 15 pounds trigger pull. They make 2 models now, the 21 (cal .22 LR) and the 3032 (32 ACP) With hot Buffalo Bore 32 in it, the 3032 would be acceptable for a defense gun, barely, but it's going to BITE with that hot stuff in it. There's no current 380 model.

Not a rumor: Beretta has Customer Service just this side of sending the Mafia after you. When you MEASURE the over-heavy trigger pull and send the gun in to get it reduced to the claimed 10#, they send it back without modification, because they want NO ONE getting the impression that they will lighten trigger pull FOR ANY REASON. I found THAT gem on several boards.

My research for a bad-hands fall-back has centered on the Charter Arms Dixie Magnum Derringer and the NAA Black Widow. They're pretty much identical, and close in price. NAA has a top-break model out now, but it's double the price. It will boil down to which one of those two fits her hand better and has the better hammer-fanning action. I have an NAA super-Mini in .22 short (for some reason, my Dad, a physician who should have known better, loved that little caliber).

There are other options, even possible is a traditional derringer (in 38 SPL), but I've shot a .357 one, and it was the hardest handgun to hold on to I ever fired.

I don't consider this handicap of hers to be more than a passing challenge to either one of us.

Keep in mind the Beretta tip-up barrel autos. Not sure how they work for malfunction drills, but at least the slide doesn't have to be racked for chamber loading/unloading. Don't know if they go bigger than .380acp. Pretty sure they have .22, .25acp, and .32acp

Not sure if there are lighter springs for the Charters, but I like the trigger action better than the j-frames. Especially if the trigger face is re-contoured. Removing the grooves and rounding the surface really helps.

S&W square edged triggers suck. Guess they couldn't justify the cost of doing it right. Plus, the j-frames feel like the trigger reaches a point where it seems to go over-center, and keeps on moving. Makes staging it, or deciding to hold your fire a moot point when you hit it.

Will, the lady is well advanced in her years, and has arthritis in the hands. Her grip strength is low, in fact, there's some possibility it will be inadequate to do a double-action trigger pull on a revolver. She has good control, though: I watched her do the "timekeeper" function at an Elks funeral ceremony last week, and her handling of chiming the bell was perfect, the ceremony calls for the two-pound bell to be held up, and struck with a hammer eleven times, making a clear chime, and according to timing, without a metronome. Seems like those hands could wield SOME sort of handgun. Worst comes to worst, maybe a light revolver in single/double action, with a special hammer spur to facilitate single action. A Dixie Derringer if nothing else, maybe.

I have an example of a semi-auto with possibly the lightest-ever double action trigger pull, the Bersa Mod. 83. It also has a light recoil spring (380 ACP). She MIGHT be able to master that.

I'm curious as to why you expect her to end up with a revolver, lightweight or otherwise. Is she expecting to carry it in the bottom of her purse, coat pocket, or other loose container?

The first concealment type revolver I bought was a Charter Arms Off Duty, for a sister to carry in her coat while walking her small dog. Couldn't get her to do it. Still working on her...

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